Christopher Nolan has stated an interest in the extensive and elaborate 70 year history of Batman — particularly the interesting parts that have not yet been in the movies or the sixties television show.
Meanwhile, The Riddler, The Penguin and Catwoman are all villains that have been bandied about as potentials for the next movie; I personally doubt whether we will see these characters pop up in the next feature. Instead I think we will see Nolan opt for a villain that impacts more on Batman/Bruce Wayne’s profile. As seen so devastatingly with The Joker, when the villain really messes with the Hero in every which way, the stories become much more intertwined, complex and exciting.
So — on that note:
Which villain(s) do you want to see in Batman 3?
The less obvious, the better — feel free to include your casting wishlists.
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There’s a short list of well-known, mainstream Batman villains — Joker, Catwoman, Penguin, Scarecrow, Riddler, Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy. Christopher Nolan has said (I think) that he’ll never do a Penguin character because he thinks its too far-fetched. Catwoman can serve as a secondary villain but can’t carry the entire bad guy part by herself. Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy are too silly of a character for the tone of these movies.I think Johnny Depp (or someone else) as the Riddler is the best option for a great third movie.
I agree with Kyle. Johnny D. would serve well as the Riddler. I’d like to really see him re-created. The others are just not feasable with the theme set by Nolan. If Heath was still with us, I would have definently vouched for a Joker reprise in this film. But, since he passed on (R.I.P), I would NOT like to see anyone try to take over the role. Unfortunently, we’ll just have to live without knowing exactly how he went down.
Also, like many others, I think they should bring back Catwoman. I agree with the above statement, that Catwoman is only a secondary villian. My reasoning is that she’s not really all bad. Maybe growing up in the Narrows of Gotham, and/or undergoing trauma, she became a thief to rise in class until she was in with the élite and powerful of Gothamites. But I don’t think she’s ALL bad. She only steals from those who can afford it. I suppose Angelina Jolie could present her quite well, but it’s more like Chris to put forth someone pretty unknown into the role. I think Jodie Lyn ‘O Keefe might do well too. Maybe, Bruce/Bat and Selina/Cat could meet while she’s robbing him? Not the most romantic of situations, but believable; he’s the richest man in town, what are the chances that she wouldn’t try to rob him? And yes, I think that the Bat and the Cat make one of the happiest couples ever. They’re each other’s equals; she’s just as dangerous as him, just as determined, just as sexy…
I prefer
The Riddler as another detective (not as Batman’s enemy)
and a low-profile Alan Grant’s Anarky as the antagonist.
In the comic, Anarky is one of Batman’s enemy rarely caught (only to be caught once in his first time appearance) and his motives are more political, similar to Ra’s Al-Ghul. The difference is, Ra’s Al-Ghul had build his own army while Anarky’s supporters came from all of those whom he helped on his vigilante action.
While most of Batman’s enemy are scared of Batman, Anarky is one of the few who never scared of him. As Ra’s Al-Ghul, Anarky is also despise Batman as “misguided idealist” (while Ra’s said that on ‘Batman Begins’, Anarky said that on comic).
Why Anarky?
Because we have seen Bruce Wayne as Batman and we have also seen Bruce Wayne as someone whose heart was tormented by the murder of his parent, and we have also seen ‘the playboy mask’.
What we have not seen on the movie version is Bruce Wayne as philantrophic. There are some comics where Bruce Wayne is shown as philantrophic such as Paul Dini and Alex Ross’s “Batman: War on Crime” or Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale’s “Ghost”.
Using Anarky who had lot of supporter from low-class of Gotham, filmmaker can confront borjuis Bruce Wayne to the problem he was unaware before.
The only problem is, we have seen ‘V for Vendetta’. Need a lot of work of re-working Anarky’s costume to avoid him being compared to V.
Catwoman is good as Batman’s enemy, since her background was low-class (Batman: Year One). If Catwoman’s appear on the next film, I hope they will not make him as ‘yet-another-sexy woman’ or worse ‘yet-another-Batman’s-lover’.
It would be interesting if she is rendered as NGO activist.
Two-Face will be the “main” villian in the third film. Why is everyone forgetting about him?
Whoever the villian is, I’m thinking the third film will be based more around Bruce Wayne/Batman. Gotham currently hates him, so, they need to focus on getting him into Gotham’s side.
But ya, Two-Face as the main villian. Maybe Riddler as a secondary. However, Riddler would be too much like the Joker in The Dark Knight.
Catwoman or The Riddler are both great prospective villians for Nolan’s third movie. With Rachel Dawes gone, Batman has got to have some female companionship and Selina Kyle is just what the doctor ordered!
The Penguin has a place in the Nolan Batman Universe, especially if they use him as a crime boss, as he is portrayed in today’s comic books. The Scarecrow might show up again too.
I think a wild card villian is Black Mask. He has a similar privileged background like Bruce Wayne, yet his life takes a different path. Also, Hush might have a shot due to his connection to Bruce’s earlier life.
However, it’s Mr. Nolan’s choice to make and it sure will be fun to watch.
Logical choices, I think, would be Hush or Black Glove. They’re not too well known, they’re not too unrealistic, and they’ve never been filmed… Even Riddler comes off as kind of silly. But what about Mad Hatter? Deadshot? Lock-up? Clayface? Firefly? Black Mask? Doodlebug? The Terrible Trio Croc? Cluemaster (Not the “The Batman” version)? Bane? The Clock King? Farmer Brown (lol)?
Two-Face. Bane.
Done!
I don’t think the Riddler would be the best choice. Though there is a lot of depth in the character, I don’t think that he will really challenge Bruce Wayne or Batman much. If the Riddler is brought in though, It would be nice to make him a minor ally to Hush. A character like Hush, The Black Mask, or any other that actually targets Bruce Wayne more than Batman, would seemingly take the franchise to another level and give the opportunity to add another dimension to the Christian Bale’s character.
The Penguin, in my opinion, doesn’t have enough depth or impact. When you compare the themes of the first films, and the weight that the villains pull, the penguin is just a bank robber that looks funny.
I also don’t think Catwoman would be a bad idea. Making Selina Kyle a love interest to Wayne, while making Catwoman another character who pushes Batman’s conceptions on how to deal with crime; to “see what I would have to become to stop men like him” all over again, would keep the Begins Universe expansive and interesting.
And to EhCanadian:
I think bringing Two-Face back would slow the whole thing down. Harvey Dent/Two-Face served his purpose for the aBegins Universe in The Dark Knight. He made Batman step up, he inspired the city, he brought Gordon and Batman closer. Done. As far as I can see, it would be very difficult to bring him back and help the story.
I beg to differ.
Having Two-Face as an actual villain/threat to Batman himself would/is a great way of showcasing how Batman is evolving. Two-Face is somebody Batman wants to see do good, but, he doesn’t, so, Batman has to fight what he wants to believe in.
Having somebody like the Riddler come in wouldn’t make that much sense. He’s probably the one villain that would make sense in Nolan’s universe, however, as I said earlier it would seem too much like the Joker. Which I guess would be a good thing, but I don’t know.
Catwoman would make complete sense. She would test Batman. Show him that the city needs him.
Penguin would work, but Nolan’s ruled that one out.
Bane I think would work great. Two-Face as the main villain, and having Bane in as the muscle. People are misguided by Bane because of the way he was portrayed in Batman and Robin. Bane’s one of the more intelligent villains in the Batman universe. Bringing Bane in would be a good move. The mob wants Batman dead, Two-Face works like a mob-boss, so they call in Bane.
I don’t know. It’s way to early to even be discussing this. Nolan stated awhile ago that he had to write the Joker out of the third, which makes me believe that the Joker was most likely going to be a big part in that movie. However, now that it’s out of the question, it’s simply to hard to say.
Whatever happens. I think the third film will be slightly slower then The Dark Knight, but a little more upbeat then Batman Begins. I think it needs to focus more on Bruce Wayne/Batman, get him believing that Gotham truly does need him and how he actually wants to be Batman. I also think that Two-Face is a given, so there’s probably no point in arguing as they set him up to be the main villain (pretty much) in for another installment.
come on guys. it would be impossible to bring back two-face after tdk. His death is the reason why gotham see’s batman as the villian.the whole movie was leading up to the fact tht batman would have to sacrifice himself for the good of gotham.if two-face came back (which is impossible considering they killed him as far as we know) it would completely defeat the purpose of batmans sacrifice.besides, aaron eckart isnt that great of a two-face.I, unlike most people, would like to see the joker recast.the make-up is thick enough to conceal the differences of heath ledger and someone like johnny depp.I also think a robin character is necessary. but nolan should pick a young actor in his teens(not chris odonnell age)
Black Mask with elements of thhe Knightfall storyline (where Batman gets beaten and can’t fight crime) that way Gotham can renew their faith in him.
Please no Johnny Depp or Angelina Jolie, they’re too big and I think it would take away from the story. I mean with the pirate movies, Johnny Depp overshadowed everything else. I wouldn’t want that.…
what about making up a completely new villain for the movie? not everything in the movie is based in the comics? so maybe it would take the batman universe in a completely new and refreshing direction. i could see how nolan may have thought to use the joker again in the third movie but i think it would be an insult to heath ledger to try and recast him. i don’t think many of the old villains really fit into universe that they’ve created. i would love to see somebody new that nobody has seen before. it would be unprecedented in superhero movie history. but i think if there would be a chance to use the movies as a creative launching point this would be it.
Superman.
This is to j.c.
Two-Face didn’t die. They (Gordan and the Gotham City Police) are faking his death. Harvey Dent gives Gotham City hope. So, telling the citizens of Gotham that Harvey Dent died a hero would be much better then telling them that they’re only hope for justice (besides Batman, but they don’t like him) turned out evil.
Know what I mean?
Thus, why I say Two-Face will be the main villain for the third film.
Fuck No!!!!
either Clay-face
or even someone whos just about as crazy as the joker like
Scarface and the ventriloquist
either clay-face or Scarface and the ventriloquist
Scarface and the ventriloquist
or clay-face
Byaaaaaaaa!!
ps sorry for all the postings
my bad
I think putting catwoman into Nolans universe of Batman would be a mistake and besides I think that Jolie would be terrible. If they should bring Catwoman at least cast Scarlett, or Kate Beckinsale. And as for my opinion for bringing the Joker back, it would be terrible, no one can match Heath Ledger performance, not even the great Johnny Depp. But as for the Riddler he would be perfect. And as for Penguin Bob Hoskins would be better than Hoffman, don’t get wrong I like Hoffman, he was spectacular in Capote, MI-3, and Before the Devil Knows your dead. And if it were me I’d bring Two-Face back, but have him locked up in Arkham Asylum. And introduce Bayne and Victor Fries, but before they become villians. Have Victor Fries be working in Applied Science with Lucius Fox, and bring up the fact that his wife has Mcgregor Syndrome.
Have Bruce Wayne fight The Mayor Penguin with his power, and have Batman fight The Riddler with his fist. And for the new woman lead have Jenifer Connelly play Talia AL Guhl. But it would be nice to have a new villian that hasn’t been on the big screen yet like the Mad Hatter, or Scarface, maybe Scarecrow. Christian Bale has said that if the boy wonder were to appear, he would never return to the batman franchise. But I always like the Bat to be on the big screen. But if the Joker were to appear again at least let it be a cameo, and have Harley Quin appear as his chic. Maybe have Killer Croc or Clock King.
Now that I thin about it, Mr.Freeze might actually work. Like DAVID S. said, he could be employed at Wayne Industries, perhaps in some advanced science or engineering project. Having to do with liquid nitrogen.…
id say that two face could be the main villain and the riddler could work as the secondary baddy (working with the police trying to catch batman) and the riddler doesnt have to be like the joker they could remake his character into more of a quiet computer geek played by johnney Depp, as apposed to the excitable loon played by jim carey.
As Nolan likes the psychological thriller angle I feel The Riddler will be interesting if played on the idea of the narcissist serial killer (like the Zodiac killings…). The psychologically of The Riddler is his compulsion to leave clues (like obsessive compulsion). I think if you play him on the level of The Riddler seeking to make a point or an example of someone (almost like in Seven) you would have a really amazing story. Perhaps not dress him in all those question marks, but maybe that could factor in too his obsession (subtlety like question mark ties and cuff links and a tendecy towards deep green suit jackets..).
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Scarface and the Ventriloquist. HE was such an amazing villian in the ainmeated series, the way the ventiloquiest is afraid of his split personality that man ifests in the puppet called scarface. Twisted…
Catwoman? Only as a secondary. I kinda cringe at her and Batman making out like some kinda S&M show (the masks, the leather..). Selina Kyle should def be introduced to serve as a distraction to the loss of Rachel Dawes.
I want something, someone new.
All of the usual suspects from Batman’s Rouges Gallery have been over-used, many are just unworkable in the Nolan universe, and others are just too trendy for my taste.
I’d like to see Dinah Lance, straight out of Miller’s All-Star Batman & Robin, have a bit role & add some eye candy, and skip the whole, very predictable, Catwoman/obligatory love interest business for the time being.
Here’s a one out of left field, how about Brainiac!
Yep! Brainiac! which will lead to a cliff hanger (think Return of the Jedi) and, you got it, the long awaited Batman/Superman crossover.
…and while your at it, throw in a time-traveling Barry Allen warning Wayne of the impending doom…
Hush, Bane, and maybe Two Face.
If the faking Dent’s death is true that would be awesome. As an artist, working on a character like Two Face(makeup and cgi wise) it would seem like a waste to do that for the last hour of the movie.
I think the idea for a power struggle would be awesome. Two Face and Hush would be great. The mob bosses are presumed dead or insane, everyone is after Batman, and corrupt cops? Who do they answer to now?
Bane came off as the character that wanted absolute power. Power seems up for grabs now with everyone dead (thank you Joker). Rise in crime is perfect for Nolan’s Two Face and Hush isn’t that afraid to take out names.
Anything, cause Nolan can do it all O_O! xD…but, as long as the casting is good and the character is not that “cartoony”, it would be good…
As long as they don’t cast Johnny Depp, ’cause he would totally fuck everything making any character be like Edward Scissor-Hands or Jack Sparrow.
I think it’d be great to introduce Harley Quinn, not as a main villain but maybe showing her speaking with the Joker in Arkham, with Joker’s back to the audience, but with Heath’s voice or similar speaking, it could be like a cameo appearance. Two-Face would be great as well to bring back , maybe not as a main main villain, I dont know.
Riddler hmmm I dont know yet is Batman ready for Riddler or at least this franchise, I mean if they play him off as a Zodiac Killer type person that would work if portrayed correctly and no Jim Carrey type persona either. But since they’re taking these stories from comics they might as well introduce the Holiday Killer, and mix it in with “Batman: Dark Victory” the sequel to the “Long Halloween”?
Please no Catwomen, I like the idea of Ra’s Agul daughter coming to avenge her father’s death but fall in love with Bruce I dont know just throwing ideas???
I dont know if it’s just me but didnt the Mayor in the Dark Knight seem suspicious, maybe he’ll be involved in something.
This next film would definately have to take Bruce/Bat to the next level with his relationship with the criminals I think, get more into the psychology of the Batman world.
And Please No Jolie or Johnny Depp
my vote: bane
and love the Harley Quinn idea by aaron b.
did dent die or what?
if not, my vote changes to two-face
Lets cut the Angelina as Catwoman talk, she is way to mediocre an actress, very hollywood, could never cut in in this world of the Dark Knight.
I think that having a little known villain like Hang Man or Holiday from “Long Holloween” and “Dark Victory” would be a great. Otherwise they should use the Riddler. Since he is a master of clues, he could promise gotham that he would be able to catch batman. And slowly works his way through gothams inner workings and becoming a dangerous threat. It would also be awesome if they brought back two face.
Grendel.
Definitely keep with the story line of Batman being a criminal and hated by Gotham for the crimes of cop killings and the death of Harvey Dent, who stays dead.
Introduce Seline Kyle, but keep Batman clear of the Catwoman character as her crimes are too small to bother with. And it had better not be Angelina Jolie. Bruce may still have a hard time letting go of Rachel which keeps Selina getting too close.
Riddler as a serial killer… Pequin as a mob boss… The thing about the Joker was he was nobody: no alias, no history; he was just a ruthless SOB that wanted to “see the world burn”.
The next movie’s prime villian has to play on the city and be as resourceful as Bruce to keep the explosions coming and the people hating Batman.
tbh if i could have anyone play the riddler it would be Michael C. Hall from DEXTER
I would love to see Harley Quinn as the main villain. There would definitely be a dark enough story involved. After seeing this fan art, I couldn’t stop thinking how good she would be for the next villain. Check it out and decide for yourself…
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/208/e/f/Batman_3_Poster___Harley_Quinn_by_joshwmc.jpg
Jude Law as the Riddler
I don’t believe Ra Goul is dead, if you notice before the train crashes he closes his eyes as to transfer himself out of the body, hence he has lived for thousands of years just like in the comics. The joker is going to have to come back regardless, and maybe they can bring back Ra Goul again as even more of a bad ass. It would be a shame to not use the Joker in the third installement, and two face can be saved for the fourth movie.….….
Enfer ( Batman: Inferno) novel or Firefly do not get much press but might be good for messing with Batman. Penguin would only be good for seizing power in Gotham so you could ground a character like that in reality. Riddler would be good as an informant character like in Long Halloween. Harley would be neat if they could find a suitable replacement for Ledger which Daniel day-Lewis could pull off.
The far-fetched include (Scarface, Clayface, Ivy, Freeze, Mad-Hatter, Bane, Man-Bat and anyone else I forgot to mention that is too eccentric for the Nolan movies.
Whoops I forgot Catwoman could go either way as far fetched or not, I cannot decide. persuade me to see it your way.
after seeing the dark knight and watching the brilliant performance by mr heath ledger i was just wondering who the next villian should be and i can’t think of a more perfect enemy to batman then the catwoman played by angelina jolie. i think that she was born to play the role. now, i know this is a good idea and it should catch on like a wild fire. can i get tickets to the premier if she takes the role. i have other ideas for other movies that will make millions if anyone wants to know
[…] With Two Face and the Joker gone, we need some new Villains… MSNBC have some suggestions, although there are also some stark ommissions (Harley Quinn and Bane both being repeated suggestions in our ongoing discussions). […]
Honest to god, I really can’t believe how formulaic you all are.
Two-Face
The Riddler
Catwoman
Blah, blah, blah.
The next movie needs to either go down the pure crime story route, and absolutely skip the predictable costumed menace business, Perhaps Batman need the help of retired Inspector Harry Callahan.
Main Villian: Bane or Deathstroke
Mafia villian:Black Mask
Side villian (only one or two):Deadshot, Riddler, Anarky, Hush, KillerCroc
Women villians: Harley quinn, Talia al Ghul or
Catwoman. Maybe lady Shiva but i highly doubt it.
Reasons behind these villians:
BANE: Bane outmatchs batman in toe to toe combat and is also strateigic genuis, who has venom that makes him incredibly strong but he is incredibly strong even without the venom.
Having bane trying to take out batman would be perfect.
Bane would take the whole situation that the cops are chasing batman and use it to a perfect advantage. He really is very smart not like how Batman and Robin the movie perceived him.
Deathstroke: The smartest villain in all comics, he’s even considered to be smarter than batman. It’s believed that all people use 10 percent of thier brain while deathstroke uses 90 percent.
BLACK MASK: A mafia boss who is one of the best, it combines the mafia and a so called “Freak”. He would know how to take advantage of batman being chased by the cops. He would take advantage by taking control of the underworld crime. (I think he would be a great Mafia boss adding in the fact that joker said “You’ve changed everything there is no going back) In that the mafia would have to be different than they were before, which would be perfect for the Black Mask.
Deadshot: Deadshot is known to have the best aim in the entire DC universe. He has a complete messed up moral code. He is a hitman and will take out any person as long as the price is right. But he also has a daughter and wife that he is trying to support and keep safe. He would be able to maybe go after ppl who batman would need to protect from him or the mob can hire him to work for them against batman. And it would be cool if they showed his family so that way maybe people can connect with him.
Riddler: Even though he seems to be liked, any movie with him as the main villian would be pathetic and would leave the critcs and audience ashamed of the movie. Nobody watching a movie will want to watch Batman have to solve those stupid riddles that he leaves, in comics people dont mind but in a movie u would want to shoot yourself and think its terrible. Riddler is a genius but one of the weakest batman villians. He leaves clues that batman always solves and then ends up catching him. (All the villians including random street thugs in the comics just think of the Riddler as a joke) He would be fine for a side villian that gives batman annoyance. It could take batman time to take out the riddler which would make batman not be at his best to fight the main villian which in my opinion should be Bane. (I really hope that The riddler isn’t in the movie, as much as people might throw his name out for the movie, they really would hate the movie even if they reinvent the riddler into nolans batuniverse, it would still leave for a completly pathetic villian, he’s just not entertaining even if they make him disturbed.)
ANARKY: Anarky would be a very good side villian (anti villian) He could be the one who sticks up for the little guy who commits crimes only to survive while batman would stop them from commiting crimes. Anarky is the Champion of the opperressed while Batman is the champion of the law. Anarky in the movie would leave Batman and the veiwer wondering who is really doing the right thing. This would be a great point in any batman film.
HUSH (Tommy): Tommy and Bruce were best freinds when kids. Tommy eventually becomes a Villian known as Hush who wears bandages around his head. He would be a fine side villian because we would get to see more of bruce wayne in his childhood and learn more about him. plus it would make for a good fight.
KILLERCROC: He would be ok. It would be fun to see him running around and killing. He is stronger and faster then batman and is able to regrow any limb cut off. He would make for great fight scenes. and also leave batman guessing as to his whereabouts and when he will commit his next murder because he never makes a plan he just looks for his next meal.
Woman Villians:
Harley Quinn: Everybody seemed to love the joker, thats why without having the joker she would be good. Harley quinn though first appeared in the animated series becaise she was so popular came into the comics.
She is Jokers right hand woman. She is almost just as crazy as the joker although only half as smart. She is in love with the joker but joker feels nothing for her (or does he we never know). She believes in all of jokers theories. She is also an acrobat.
She would be good as a woman villian because we havent seen a performance from her and she would add that “Jokerness” that everybody is attarcted to.
Talia Al Ghul: Daughter of the villian in number one:
She can take over the League of Shadows. she is smart, sexy, and in the comics Batmans one true love.
She would add the spice to the movie of batmans falling in love.
Batman has one weakness giving his heart to others and she can be his true weakness in the movie.
Catwoman:A theif named selina kyle who is Carmin Falconi’s daughter. She has gone out with batman in the comics. (In my opinion she is just to much of the same.)
Lady Shiva:Ultimate assiassn, has taught batman how to fight when he was broken by the bane. I don’t think she’d do to well in a movie though.
A combination of bane, Black Mask and any one of these side villians (Deadshot hired by Black Mask in my opinion would be great.) and either girl. They should make it alittle longer than the second one, a long movie to end the trilogy
It isn’t too far fetched to consider clayface as a possible side-villain.it may be possibe for a facet of the mob to enlist an actor to publically portray influencial gothamites using stage makeup. this avenue could reflect the reputaion of bruce wayne.
nothing supernatural, just very simple.
I honestly would love to see a film version of The Riddler as a sadistic killer, almost a Jigsaw-esque Marilyn Manson type.
I think mixed in with his OCD it would make for some crazy scenes.
Otherwise, what about Ragdoll? Mad Hatter?
I would honestly LOVE to see Harley Quinn thrown in, but since Heath Ledger’s dead and no one’s going to want to touch the Joker’s role, I seriously don’t see any way.
I still have a feeling both Two Face and Scarecrow are coming back for a sequel.
The Christopher Nolan is an obsessor on themes.
Batman Begins’ theme was fear
and this one was corruption and morality
what I find interesting though is that in both a façade is created in order to convince Gotham of the theme (in “Begins” the population was told that the Scarecrow was dead in order to save them from fear and thus letting Scarecrow win, and in “Dark Knight” they hid the existence of Two Face to prevent the people from losing their faith is justice and righteousness).
My theory is that in the third movie, the theme will be lies and repentance; Alfred will have to attone for burning the letter, and the cats will be out of the bag on Scarecrow and Two Face.
But that’s just my theory.
actually, ladies and gentleman. 2 face can return! he isnt dead. they wont cast another joker, but they will make referneces to him by using unused footage from TDK. plus his gang is still around, (i.e. harley race). riddler would be an idea, as he is the one who makes batman think the most (puzzles). catwoman is not an option, she isnt a vilan, shes more out for herself than to try and create problems. plus remeber ras al gul, was in someway immortal. dont be suprised if he shows his face! bane, wont work. he needs to be led, and poison ivy is a joke!!! penguin, o heck noll! they have to build his lair back, they need a new batmobile, he needs his jet. there are things that has to happen. let’s not forgetthat this is more of the beggining of batman and joker, so forth and so on! Nolan did a great job!!!! rest asure he already had B3 wrote and damn near ready! from what i heard, they wasnt bringing joker back in full swing in that one anyway!
Like Beyonce has been over exposed…Jolie can take a longggg break from acting and just be a mother of her huge family.Since brad can’t come back to do a Fight Club 2,they can get some rest together! The series has a more than enough star power to allow a new actress to come aboard. I want someone that can talk like Ertha Kitt,ohhhhh that voice! Riddler would be cool and at the end of the movie a “new” doctor can get the Joker out of jail or the nut house,with the hair longer to hide the face some another actor can play the part,not the same as heath but the joker cannot be removed from the series.
one thing is for sure: Nolan favors continuity. i do not see two-face showing his face(s) in the next film; harvey dent is dead and buried. this was shown at the end of TDK. the joker’s role might be a different story. i highly doubt that film footage of the late heath ledger will be used in the next film. it could be possible for the joker’s influence to have an impact in the next film (maybe in the form of a recently corrupted doctor). as for the next villain, the theme for the next movie has not been established, so all we have to work on is conjecture. the theme will suggest the villain.
this given, consider the previous themes. fear was the theme of begins, and escalation in knight. in the next film i think we can expect themes close to, or something like redemption, atonement, or perhaps containment. remember arkham’s population is mostly still at large and, the mob is in shambles after three mob bosses were removed from power by the joker and harvey-two-face, respectively. also remember that batman took the fall for harvey-two-face’s murders for the sake of gotham’s morale.
gotham almost lost the hero they wanted if it was not for the hero they needed.
Sticking with psychological criminals who fit into reality, I think Doodlebug or Humpty-Dumpty would be great (or pretty much any villain from the Arkham Asylum: A Living Hell comics. They really aren’t well-known, but the crimes they commit are intruiging in an insane sort of way.
Honestly, I would love to see the joker return, but I would understand if he doesn’t. It would be hard to find an actor who can play as good a joker as Heath Ledger.
A smaller villain would be nice, too, to bring a contrast to the clearly insane, and provide some balance on a moral grid.
For me Two Face is dead, Harvey Dent was in the casket in TDK & now the Batman will have to deal with being hunted down as a villain. I hope that there is some unseen footage that can be used in the nest film just so that we have the continuity of the Joker as he caused chaos in Gotham. Hopefully his presence will be felt within Gotham but the story could include the creation of Robin (a teen Robin) — maybe the lad helps Batman when he is being hunted down even though the Batman is at first concerned for his safety and won’t let him get involved. Yet the boy is relentless in his mission to assist the hounded Batman and becomes Robin. I think that Johnny Depp would be great as the Riddler but this may come too soon after Heath Ledgers Joker as I can see them being similar villains so I would only have the Riddler come into it at the end as Two Face did in TDK and have him return as the main villain in Batman 4. Catwoman could replace Rachel Dawes as Batmans love interest by at first robbing Bruce Wayne and then like Robin also helping him survive in Gotham. The main threats to the Batman in the next film should be the mobsters, police & Bane. However the Joker’s masks (his team) should still be reaking havoc in the City as he attempts to rule it — Calendar Man and Deadshot are hired by the Joker (now in jail). The 4th installment would then see Johnny Depp as the Riddler becoming the dominant force as he weakens the Joker’s stranglehold (the JOker doesn’t have to appear, his presence just needs to be felt) on Gotham City.
What do you think?
i would love to see a real sinister riddler, maybe penguin as a gangster. poison ivey could have been one of ras al guhls assassin ninja girls who now works for his daughter and uses poison to kill her victims, bane could be the gangter penguins hitman. any comments.
for me personally i’d go for michael urie as the riddler
i don’t know why i thought about this but i would just like for everyone to try this one on for size– i wonder what everyone thinks about Guy Pearce for the riddler. he has worked with Nolan before in Memento and is a wonderful actor. Does anyone think he’d be up to it?
.….assuming, of course, it will be the riddler in the next movie.
what brings me to mention his name is that i watched his portrayal of the corrupt Count Mondego in the Count of Monte Cristo. his performance in that role was devilishly cold.
just something to think about.
Ok to all the Two-Face lovers, Harvey died in TDK!! We all saw the damn funeral in the film, let him go!!
Secondly, I strongly feel that the next central villain should undoubtedly be Mr. Scarface and the Ventriloquist.
Let’s not forget that this new adaptation was filmed in Chicago for a reason. And that reason was because Christopher Nolan said he saw Chicago as the ideal city that had roots of crime and the mob. That’s what the movie has all been about, Batman searching and trying to finish off the remainding mob families. The storyline should be on the Mob trying to bring back the power they once had before Batman made an entrance, especially after they saw the Joker was just using them as pawns for his own goal. And now that the Mob knows the Gotham Police and even the people of Gotham are hunting Batman, this is their perfect chance to take back what was once their city. How they go about that?? Enter Mr. Scarface who speaks through the Ventriloquist rather than the opposite. Mr. Scarface would convince the Mob that it is now the perfect chance to hunt the batman down and know his true identity. Mr. Scarface and The Ventriloquist would be the best villains for the next film because it goes deeper, more gritty and violent than TDK. And as Gordon starts realizing that the mob is growing back in power, they try to make a desparate attempt to have Batman put an end to the Mob.
Now who would be a perfect actor to play the Ventriloquist I certainly don’t know but it would definitely have to be someone who has had a tremendous experience in roles that involve dual personalities and schizophrenia. Kind of like Edward Norton in Fight Club.
What do you people think of this??? Gime feedback…
Catwoman — Kate Beckinsale
Riddler — Johnny Depp
Two Face — aaron eckhart
Vickie Vale -
Dick Grayson -
needs to start the story with everyone on the hunt for batman edward nigma hunts for him as does the rest of gotham later finds two face and convinces him to help kill batman. Catwoman enters the picture robbing jewlery stores, batman tries to stop her she gets away. later selina kyle and bruce fall in love finding out about each other dick grayson appers in the film living with bruceafter the death of his family riddler and two face stike and batman finaly clears his name with the help of catwoman bring in vivke vale as a reporter dick learns of bruce waynes secrets and bruce helps train him no robin apperance though after two face and riddler are done for catwoman dissapears and arkham blows up leaving with the jokers insane laugh put a good story line with it itll work
The Riddler would probaly be the best choice as the next villian. He was used wrong in the other movies he starred in (as a joker rip-off). In the third film he is a detective called Edward Nygma helping the police hunt down Batman, after the events of The Dark Knight. He is a genius and matches the Batman in terms of logical thinking. He seems to be helping the police, though Gordon doesn’t trust him, but in truth he has a nefarious plan of his own and becomes obesessed with catching Batman, and figuring out Batman’s secret identity. He starts to commit nasty crimes, taking the alias of the Riddler, and leaving behind baffling riddles, in order to draw out the Batman. Bstman, meanwhile, still mourning the loss of Rachel Dawes and Harvey Dent, must uses all his skills and the help of his friends to defeat the Riddler, keep his identity from being discovered by the villian, and redeem himself in the eyes of Gotham’s citizens.
It would work well, with the theme in this film being redemption. The Riddler would work well in Nolan’s universe. He could have elements of Jigsaw and the Zodiac Killer put into his character. I’m not sure who would be best to potray him, though Johnny Depp and David Tennant would be two very good choices.
I always felt Ventriloquist was a little too weird and cheesy to use as villian in Nolan’s series. But Bravo mentioned a good way to use him, along with a good plot line. However, i think that most of the mob leaders were killed by Joker or Two-Face, and escalation was already a theme used in The Dark Knight. The mob has lost its power and now its freaks like the Joker who are the main criminal threat.
Nicholas…
I’ll agree to your comment to a certain extent. But then again, the Mob was never the central enemy in neither BB nor TDK, in BB it was Rha’z Al Ghul and his terrorist organization, TDK was insane freaks. Which is why I believe now the Mob should take a central role as the antangonist in the third. Maybe, if possible, it could be a certain mob led by Mr. Scarface and the Ventriloquist on one end and Black Mask and his mob on the other.
The Plot Line could devolop in the two Mob factions trying to unify in order to kill of the Batman and Commisioner Gordon (Gordon has put his name on the Mob’s wanted list ever since he started his own Crime Unit). It could begin with the Mob finding individuals within the Police and Politics who are still loyal to them and helping in assassinating any ohters who pose a threat to them. This is how Scarface and Black Mask fit the description because their crimes were considered like Clock-Work. And to build tension, they capture Gordon in order to find out who Batman really is or how to find him. Gordon’s capture will bring moral to a low standard sicne he’s been considered the only Good Cop in Gotham.
As the story develops however, we see that Mr. Scarface and Black Mask don’t meet eye to eye and at some point, when their success is paying off, a bitter rival fued erupts between the two factions causing deception among each other. Black Mask should be the one who loses but later captured and interrogated by Batman to find where Scarface is and where is he holding Jim Gordon.
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I thought this up in 2 minutes lol… but i do think there should be a third villain but one who plays a supporting role.
FEEDBACK!!!
I see alot of good ideas here, but I can’t imgane Harley Quinn or the Ventriloquist being used. Its just so hard to imgane. Plus, we know Batman will be still hurt at the lost of Rachel Dawes, so I don’t think he will find another “love” in the third movie (who knows). I think the Riddler will come into play. Whatever Nolan chooses to do, I think it will be great. Plus, things are gonna get alot worse, I think the next theme could be.…what? Hope? Sacrifice? I really don’t know.
I didn’t read all the replies above, but what about Cain?
Cassandra Cains (Batgirl) Father? Bruce Wayne: Fugitive and :Murderer could translate to the big screen, especially how TDK ended with Bats on the run.
Not only would this impact batman, but Bruce as well, Cain learns of Batman’s Secret identity, and uses that as a catalyst for revenge. This would fit perfectly into the 3rd film, with or without a Batgirl.
No More Mob. No crime families, no gangs, unless its checkmate or Intergang.
I want to see a villian that can match wits with Batman, I want a Batman movie that shows the public why he is known as “The Worlds Greatest Detective“
so far IMHO not one single batman movie has shown off his detective skills
Hmmm, that is a good point.
what about this have poison ivy as a terrorist and try to destroy gotham with daeadly toxins because they(and i mean Wanyne Int.) treat the enviroment badly.With the help of
Anarky she could get Gotham in needing batman agian.
I think it would be fantastic to introduce catwoman in the next film, but I think they should make her something of a side charactor and let her story play out over several films. Now there are many villians that would fit great into the series the best of which probably being the Riddler, the Madd hatter, and blackmask, but for the next film I think the best character would be a reinvision of mr. freeze played by patrick stewart, and although they are a little farfetched I would also love to see clayface, manbat, poison ivey, and the evil computer Hardac
I agree that Daniel Day Lewis or Tim Roth would play good villians … but not the Riddler. Regardless of Depp being an A-lister as of late, he would make a perfect Riddler and bring a dark side (see Sweeney Todd) to the character.
Personally, I’d like to see a more ‘normal human’ character. Let’s see more of Victor Zsasz in a subplot like Two-Face was done. Ditch the Catwoman idea … she’s been overdone and beat into the dirt. If a woman villian is chosen, do Poison-Ivy and do her right.
I personally would like to see Firefly or Black Mask … especially Black Mask. To me, Black Mask is a sicker version of the Joker (read the War Drums/Games storyline). The way he tortured Spoiler was sick, twisted and good to read. I think Daniel Day Lewis would be perfect for Black Mask (see Gangs of New York). As for Roth, I have no clue who he’d be great for.
It just accured to me that the perfect villian for the next movie will be Man-bat, because batman will be on the GCPD’s most wanted list and man bat will be terrorizing gotham escalating the cities want to capture the batman and possibly leading to an exhoneration for the batman upon man-bats capture. Now I don’t think that man bat alone will be able to carry an entire movie and you would need another villian in the film and I think the Riddler would probably work best, and even though Nolan’s films are based in reality Im convinced that he has the ability to make this charactor believable.
on some other blog sites ive seen people throw around james franco’s name as taking heath ledger’s place. dunno if that would be good or not, but personally im against bringing back the joker (no one could surpass heath) and two-face.
im also against catwoman and penguin.
i agree with alot of people in thinking it would be cool to see the riddler come in. i think he’s a character that could be molded to fit in with the series pretty well. but i also think another character that hasn’t gotten alot of face time in the past would be cool too.
i think they introduced robin already, with that guy that found out about batman’s identity, (or maybe im dreaming) but personally im against doing the whole batman and robin thing.
OK, I dont see why some people are slagging off the Riddler as a villian. The only movie version of him was played by Jim Carrey in a completly cartooney style way and in fact so was the Joker in the very first Batman movie. And yet the Joker character still brought up so many interesting social and psychological points in that movie. (Excellent portrayal by Heath and the writers much Kudos to them both)
Why not give it a shot at turning the Riddler into a darker character? Why cant his riddles have even worse consequences, more serious consequences if Batman cant figure them out? All through the movies in a way Batman has to solve the riddles to get to the main objective.
As for Catwoman, it might be a tad bit of overkill to put her in the movie after they did one of her own and stuff.…I dunno…personally I’d like to see Posion Ivy do something instead if you have to have a female villian…how much terror could she actually bring with poisoned everyday things that we use…such as lipstick…perfume…aftershave…possibility for mass chaos and for her sidekick Bane to come in. I dunno, thinking as a writer here lol.
Nice seeing all of your opinions by the way, next movie, whatever they do to it should be awsome.
I think Catwoman would be a good addition to the next movie, considering one of the themes for the next movie will deal with Bruce Wayne coping with a dual identity. There’s a love connection between Bruce and Selina but they just can’t be together for obvious reasons. Riddler would also be good for the same theme, maybe figure out Batman identity and use it against him.
Johnny Depp would be a great Riddler. He can play that cool, calm, charismatic, but evil character. He could also pull off the Joker part if it were a very minor role and no close-ups. Be great if they could work Harley Quinn in, Zooey Deschanel would be perfect. If Poison Ivy, Alicia Witt would be great. And I’m down to four on Catwoman and can’t make up my mind: Shannyn Sossamon, Rachel Weisz, Olivia Wilde, or Connie Nielsen
Scarface and the Ventriloquist is my favorite Batman villain and there for I agree with Bravo, that he should be in the third Batman movie. I think that is should be a mob war (after the events of the Joker) at the begining of the movie, as the last strike of the mob in Gotham. This should run throuh the intire movie. The Black Mask (as the “cool” mob boss) and the Ventriloquist and Scarface (as the crazy, scary and funny (with lines, not appearance!) mob boss). I really think that Scarface and the Ventriloquist should work very well in the Nolan-universe of Batman as a scary and crazed character. I also think that music can lift the character to another level, I imagine some kind of scary and mysterious steam organ/circus music as the theme of Scarface and the Ventriloquist, also (of course) with a gangster music twist from the ’20’s.
I’m pretty sure that Aaron Eckhart said that two-face was “dead as a door nail.” Not that I don’t think he wouldn’t fit in the next movie, but that’s what he said. Joker shouldn’t be recast. End of story. Not only would no one be able to match Heath’s performance, if a person that dangerous was caught by the authorities they’d never give him a chance to escape. The Joker escaped once in TDK, but that’s because he planned to. Having the Joker in the next installment would be unrealistic. Besides, the Joker doesn’t care if he gets caught or killed, as long as he’s caused a stir through someone else(two-face in TDK). You could have someone like Harley Quinn who was inspired by him and takes up the cause. Riddler would probably fit best in Nolan’s universe. I like the idea of the Riddler being a detective obsessed with catching Batman, so much so that he starts framing Batman for really gruesome crimes. Guy Pierce would be perfect. Personally, I find Mr. Freeze’s story most compelling. I’m not sure how Nolan would pull it off, as a guy in a freezing suit and an ice gun is pretty unrealistic, but the story would be emotionally charged. Bane is a must. His portrayal in Batman and Robin made me sick. He’s a mastermind and he’s stronger than Batman, making him basically better. But should Nolan come on board for the next installment I’ll trust his judgement for whatever he wants to do.
I think they should have the Riddler as the main villain, and the Penguin as a minor side villain.
i think that if this movie is going to be concerned with wrapping-it-all-up, we should see a number of villains loose in gotham. i think it would be cool to see quick cameos of a handful of villains translated for the nolan-universe. of course there would be a mastermind, the main villain, whoever that may be. i think in order to top the dark knight, batman needs to get busy. arkham still needs to be repopulated from back in the first movie. the joker showed how to challenge batman. i also like the idea of a detective bent on capturing batman, setting riddles for him and such. it would at least give gordon a rival.
My thoughts… This post earlier makes the most sense to me:
»>“As Nolan likes the psychological thriller angle I feel The Riddler will be interesting if played on the idea of the narcissist serial killer (like the Zodiac killings…). The psychologically of The Riddler is his compulsion to leave clues (like obsessive compulsion). I think if you play him on the level of The Riddler seeking to make a point or an example of someone (almost like in Seven) you would have a really amazing story. Perhaps not dress him in all those question marks, but maybe that could factor in too his obsession (subtlety like question mark ties and cuff links and a tendecy towards deep green suit jackets..)«<
I think that there are so many angles that you can take with this sort of idea. I like the idea of making the sequel with the Riddler as the villian. I think if it can be done as a psychological thriller with a lot of action, you can have a really deep and well satisfying movie. Considering that the entire franchise has been reinvented under Nolan’s direction, I see no reason why the Riddler can’t be reinvented either.
I do agree however that The Riddler and the Joker might be too similiar. But I think that is why you would have to have a different but solid story line to seperate the differences. I think Johnny Depp would make a terrific Riddler.
I also like someone’s suggestion that the next sequel should attack the Bruce Wayne character in some aspect. Perhaps someone (perhaps the riddler maybe?) stumbles upon his true identity and decides to exploit it (but not for money).
In any case, other than these suggestions, I think Nolan should create somebody totally new and modern. (or at least take an old villian and make him new and modern). One thing we can definitely count on… Nolan aims for realism. So whatever villian he picks, you can pretty much rule out anybody who’s character is based on having any supernatural ability.
I like the idea of seperating the villains into three categories:
–The Mafia.
–The main villain.
–The side villain.
The idea of having The Penguin as the mafia boss is great. He has what it takes. That old fashioned colonial name, the black suit, expensive weapons, that big fat body. It all really works. Since he is a mafia boss, they should not venture much into his past. After all, Mr. Nolan made his version of Gotham as a fictional Chicago right? So the mafia thing is very important. And honestly, I cannot imagine anyone playing the role of a mobster better than Robert De Nero himself.
Like many agree on, The Riddler would be a perfect main villain. But of course, he resembles The Joker in many ways. Might as well have The Joker return to do the third film right? But Mr. Nolan is one of the best story tellers of our time. I’m sure he can come up with something new with the help of this blog (Hehehe… seriously). Like the idea of an over obsessive detective leaving riddles around should be nice. The idea of a psychopathic serial killer leaving behing riddles at crime scenes that result in bad consequences if not solved is also a good one. But the first one should be better. Or I don’t see shy someone like Mr. Nolan can’t think of a way to merge both our versions of The Riddler and make one super evil, super complex, super twisted Riddler. That will surely help with the tone of the film and surpass The Joker, that has led to higher expectations in a Batman villain. Johnny Depp seems to be the most popular first choice for The Riddler, just like me. But there is no doubt other dramatic actors like Will Smith, George Clooney, Edward Norton and Leonardo Dicaprio would do well. But Johnny Depp should be better if and only if Mr. Nolan plans to make the character more psychotic and weird-like.
The side villain just has to be a girl, one presumely to become Bruce’s next love interest. But of course, Bruce just lost Racheal. so it should be like the girl is after Bruce, while Bruce rejects her constantly not entirely because he is still recovering from his lost, but also because he feels he is cheating on Racheal’s memory. Catwoman is my first choice since she leads a double life too and is beautiful and confused all at the same time. Her connection with Bruce is right there! Having Poison Ivy as the female side villain would not work out well since she she does not share much in common with Bruce, thus no connection.
But the idea of keeping her as the main villain, out to destroy Wayne Enterprice and Gotham for not being environmental friendly with toxic weapons is superb and should not be wasted rivaling The Riddler and could be saved for the fourth movie.
When we mention Catwoman, she is famous for he classical yet modern beauty. Who else to play her role than the one of the most beautiful woman in the world — Aishwarya Rai. Not that Angelina Jolie, Kate Benkiscle, Kate Winslet and the other Hollywood actresses are not beautiful and talented enough, but like someone said — they are too Hollywood, too comercial, and would overshodow the character and the entire movie. Aishwarya Rai is a dramatic actress and is also beautiful. She would fit in perfectly for the character. After all, Rai is a famous star but not in the Hollywood way and adding her to the cast would be good in promoting the film. Aftrer all who cares? She should be the minor villain and having a big name would destroy it. There should also strictly be no kissing or sex scenes between Bale and Rai, for Bale’s character is still in love with his old flame.
How come nobody has talked much about the villains’ costumes? Penguin would do well with a tux. Riddler might need a bright green costume, but maybe the question mark thing can just be an extra accesory like a large chain or belt. The Catwoman should keep her original costume, not the flashy Halle Berry one that is too obsene for a mature film like this.
I luv d idea of havin a main villain, minor villain and mafia one.
Main villain should be Poison Ivy. She wanna destroy Gotham 4 not being enviromental n all dat. She destroys d city slowly with toxic make-up stuff n all dat. Great idea.
Aishwarya Rai wud b great 4 d role for she is only an upcoming actress. Big hollywood names would destroy Nolan’s atmosphere.
No girl villain has been the main villain of a major superhero film. Dis could be a trend setter, and be good 4 the film.
Rai is also an international star. She is the top star of Bollywood, famous among Desi people around d globe, popular in Arab countries n all dat. Casting her wud b great 4 promotion like what someone said. But keeping her as a side villain wud b a total waste of talent.
Any ideas? What du u guyz think bout havin a girl villain as d main villain, and not having a big Hollywood name do that?
I think jodi lyn o’keefe would make a great catwoman! She has already played the good girl, bad girl character in prison break. She also has the perfect facial features to play catwoman and she is tall. I think she should be considered as a catwoman.
I cant believe no-one has mentioned KING TUT as a primary villian. he certainly hasnt been over exposed..
Fit into the story the global financial crisis
He Could be some sort of Oil Baron/Shiek (rough idea here) hell bent on dominating the worlds crude oil market
I dunno maybe that idea may be too big to put into a story
but definitely have the character, and the likes of ivy or catwoman could 2nd him as villans..
I think that the film should have two villians like the previous films, (Batman Begins-Ras Al Ghul, Scarecrow), (Dark Knight-Joker, Two-Face),
The writers have expressed interest in using villians that have not appeared in a film yet, and two interesting and so far unportrayed villians that would do good is Black Mask and Hush, they could be foes to both Batman and Bruce Wayne, Hush could be a mysterious vigilante helping the police hunt down Batman after the events of TDK, and developing a rivalry with Commisioner Gordon would doesn’t trust Hush, Hush secretly has a unknown personal vendetta agianst Batman, meanwhile Black Mask would be a ruthless business leader of a company involved with the mafia, and rival to Wayne Enterprises, Black Mask is contacted by Hush who feels there is a connection between Wayne enterprises and Batman, the two villians form an alliance, and Black Mask focuses on on exposing the connection between Wayne and BAtman, he can also be an adversary to Lucius Fox who runs the corporation, Batman must face Hush who hunts him down everywhere, while as Bruce Wayne, he and Fox must stop Black Mask from exposing his secret
they should bring back Robin
Okay everyone of you makes a very good point. What these new Batman era movies brought that no other movie or t.v. series acknowleged was to create the realization to personify real human beings and not comic book characters. This is what the producers and director brought to the film. Amazement beyond belief. So while you guys sit there saying Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Peguin are not potential villians… that is just not true these villians created the structure for Batman so what we must do is imagine how to resemble these characters into our world and not based on the comics.. If you guys forgot its imagination… Nothing bad Nolan but after you have stated to people about how Robin cannot become a character well thats to bad because how Batman is being personified now he’ll need a sidekick to help him. What i mean is many of the people which deeply respect the Batman through the comic books and older films can state, “batman is becoming a punk” “Batman’s voice is just unusual” so if your mind is choosing a path which will become a no way out reconsider the characters you will potentially lose… So back to my statement about creativity thats what we need and we’ll create great characters that has never been seen in history such as now our new villians Scarecrow, Two– Face, and the Joker. So to end this minor passage we have the technology and the mind power lets do something about it before we destroy our past.
Thank You
P.S. Heath rest in peace, man. You gave us something to never forget now its our turn to give you something. i hope we successfully do it.
And,
Just Find a Robin!!!! Nolan Please
I honestly agree that something new can be done, and this is the time. I can say right now that Penguin, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane or a Joker recast won’t happen. We all know that The Riddler going to be the obveous main antagonist, in which I believe David Tennant would be a better villain than Johnny Depp. Alongside Riddler, I want to see a good, realistic Mad Hatter. Think about it: They both love manipulating the mind and feelings and would be perfect for the apocalypse Gotham faces. Batman is “on the run”, Riddler and Mad Hatter are manipulating Gotham, and testing all in a cruel game. I don’t know who would play The Hatter, but we need him there because he could work best with Riddler, plus he has not been done before!
And besides, Johnny Depp is doing The Mad Hatter in Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland remake, therefore cannot be the Riddler!!
ya i agree with ya mr stewart — wanna get some mad hatter on!
Screw you all, screw you all!! Let’s turn Batman into the biggest cartoon crapfest ever…throw in Freeze, Bane, Killer Croc, Clayface, Manbat, Egghead, ressurect Dracula, give Spiderman a cameo, make Batman obese hiding out in an abandoned apartment eating crap, give Wayne Knight the role as Robin, recast the Joker to Jim Carrey, and let the ’49 silent serials look good. Also, let’s give the Batsuit cheesy foam nipples, make batman grow a moustache, and let Alfred be the star of the movie!!
Hola Amigos!
!Hablar qiuen de Sr. Freeze es estipido! Mi amo por que de Bane o el Riddler tu tres de Batman. Adiós!
i wanna to see penguin cuz he could be a good batman villon and uses umbrellas to kill and pengunz.
It could be an interesting challenge to take one of the most absurd Batman villains and find a way to make them a psychologically convincing character.
How about a Bill Gates type character, a billionaire technological genius (not that i’m saying Gates is a genius) who after a traumatic accident where he has to have his cranium rebuilt ends up with and oddly enlarged bald head and a tourettes like compulsion to make egg puns.
I think Talia would be amazing. After her father died in the first one when her father tried to destroy the city, She could make a come-back to her father’s plan to destroy Gothem. She could get the old family buisness back in buisness! The dark knight is yet still a young hero. With Ra’s in the first, she would make the story-line perfect. She is the first girl villian who would be the perfect actress for her? Eva Mendes! She’d be perfect she’s hot and she look’s egzactly like her! But she should’nt be the main villian, just make sure she’s a villian early, unlike what you did with Two-face in the dark night.
The main villian should be the Riddler. He’s my favorite villian! But if you do make him I hope actually use riddles. I’m not posting much for Riddler because I want Nolan to invent him.
Edward Nigma / The Riddler = Johnny Depp
Selina Kyle / Catwoman = Alana de la Garza
Pamela Lillian Isley / Poison Ivy = Rachel Nichols
Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot / The Penguin = Philip Seymour Hoffman
Harleen Quinzel / Harley Quinn = Kristen Bell or Rachel McAdams
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HARLEY QUINN!!!! she is such a wicked sick character. she’s kinda like a female version of Joker just a lil more peppy. also i think there should NOT be another Joker in respect to Mr. Heath Ledger (R.I.P). it would be completely rude to him and it’d be like saying “your acting wasn’t any good so where gonna replace you”. two-face can’t come back ‘cuz he’s dead! no Angelina Joelie or Johnny Depp. it should be actors adn actresses that aren’t quite known. i still say Harley Quinn should be in the movie maybe not the main but she should be in there for more than just one scene!!!!!!!!
AND What about BrainIAC ?
AND James Marsters for the role.
He has already done it once.
I wouldn’t mind Johnny Depp for Riddler, either. He would bring on the Jack-Sparrow-ish fun into the villain.
Somehow, i can’t put off the thought of JIm Carey doing a role in batman 3.
I agree with the Joker’s presence being felt in the movie.
A cool new female villain would be good as well. So, Catwoman.
Perhaps the movie can even show the villains forming the Legion of Doom under the headship of Lex Luthor and having branches, of course.
Of course, now the movie would focus more on Batma, but,
“This city needs a better class of criminals”
I think Bjork would play a great Harley Quin. They both have an out going personality and a little weird.
I like the batman villians from the comics from the 80’s cause they were dark, but yet quite relistic, yet have intresting storylines and have not been over-exposed.
1)The Reaper.… was a hardcore villian, his intro lasted 4 magazines and went head to head with batman, also gotham thought he WAS the batman
2)black mask, we all know his story
3)KG Beast.….the most ruthless ever, the original version of bane, the size of a wwe wrestler trainned in the russian army, who was so ruthless in trying to kill batman he chopped off his own hand just to make batman fall off a large building!!!!!!
4)galvin the executioner.…. the state tried to sentance him to death by electric chair, he survied but with stronger electric powers!!!!
5)rat catcher.… side villian?
6)maxie zeus.… simalr to king tut
I personally think the riddler in nolans franchise. I think maybe Jim Parsons who play Sheldon Cooper in The Big Bang Theory but Also like the ideas of Johnny Depp and Jim Carrey!!!
who’s going to be racheal dawes in the third dark knight movie?
i think it might be umm,…maggie gwyennadall, as racheal dawes, with crispin glover as the joker, and with hugh laurie as the
mad hatter, and with micheal ansara as mister freeze, and with
brandon rough as superman, and with tailia al ghul, and with
sarah michelle gellar as harley quinn,.…. and with the watchmen heroes,… too,… and with morgan freeman as luchious
fox,… and with the gotham city thugs,.… and with aaron eckhart as two face ‚.….in the movie too, and still with my female fox friend tails miles prower /tailsko,.… please put her in the movie,.….….
i thinik dane cook would play a great riddler i could see him doing that not as mutch as i see jhon depp but what ever and who brot up the mad hatter… realy -.-